Answers to questions about the new LDS policy on same sex couples and their children

Many questions have been flooding in regarding LDS Church’s new policy on same sex marriage. Here are some answers.

On November 5, 2015, the New York Times published a story announcing a change in policy for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The LDS Church followed with a statement and a video explaining the change.

In summary, the policy establishes a same sex couple as apostate and follows the same protocols as the LDS church’s policy on polygamy.

Here is the short announcement posted on the Mormon Newsroom:

On November 5, the Church updated its policy, stating that children living with parents or guardians in a same-gendered marriage or cohabiting relationship cannot be baptized until of legal age. In addition, children of same-sex couples may not receive a baby blessing.

Once the child reaches the age of 18, and is no longer living with his or her same-sex parents, the child may choose to be baptized into the Church only after he or she “accepts and… commit[s] to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage.”

Christofferson, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, clarified that any individual may receive priesthood blessings of healing, comfort or guidance if he or she wishes to receive one.

During the interview, Christofferson addressed many of the questions that have resulted from this policy change. The apostle addressed why children of same-sex couples must wait for baptism, the importance of families, how the Church will continue to advocate for LGBTQ individuals to be treated fairly in regards to housing and employment, and that the Church recognizes individuals have a right to choose to participate in a same-sex marriage relationship in many countries, including the United States.

Mormon Newsroom reports that the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles approved all of the changes.

Here is the exact text of the new policy.

Here are some additional resources to answer questions you may have:

Policy Handbook 1

Policies on Ordinances for Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship
The following additions to Handbook 1 have been approved by the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles for immediate implementation.

A new section in Handbook 1, 16.13 will be added as follows: Children of a Parent Living in a Same-Gender Relationship
A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may not receive a name and a blessing. A natural or adopted child of a parent living in a same-gender relationship, whether the couple is married or cohabiting, may be baptized and confirmed, ordained, or recommended for missionary service only as follows: A mission president or a stake president may request approval from the Office of the First Presidency to baptize and confirm, ordain, or recommend missionary service for a child of a parent who has lived or is living in a same-gender relationship when he is satisfied by personal interviews that both of the following requirements are met: 1.

The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage. 2.

The child is of legal age and does not live with a parent who has lived or currently lives in a same-gender cohabitation relationship or marriage.

Here is the announcement and video explanation from the Mormon Newsroom.

Here is the video of Elder Christofferson, member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles explaining the new policy:

Here is an unofficial LDS opinion “The Nine Facebook Myths about the new LDS policy”

There is a good chance that you’ve recently learned about the Church’s new policies regarding same-sex couples, and read much about it on social media. Mormons and gays has long driven web traffic, so news outlets can be expected to jump on the news, but they should be expected to at least report on the issue accurately and respectfully.

The two changes took place in the Church’s administrative handbook, also called handbook 1, which contains instructions for bishops and stake presidents.

The first change edits the definition of apostasy. The new definition adds that entering a same-sex marriage constitutes apostasy.

The second change requires that for children of same-sex couples to be baptized they must be adults, and specifically reaffirm their testimony of eternal marriage.

Even though these are procedural changes that reaffirm a core doctrine of the Church, the Church’s opponents have wasted little time in beginning their attack. The news, unsurprisingly, was first broken by John Dehlin who makes his living by antagonizing the Church.

There have been many responses to this news, most based on inaccurate headlines, incorrect understandings, or hate mongering of the Church’s opponents.

Myth #1 These Changes Punish Children
The most pervasive myth you’ll hear about these changes is that they punish children. All people can receive all the ordinances of salvation and exaltation. And all children can attend all church activities and events. There is no degree of punishment that exists in these new changes.

Children must simply wait until they can legally make their own decision to join the Church, rather than relying on their parent’s approval. While a parent in a same-sex relationship could theoretically approve of their child’s baptism, questioning their motivation to do so would be prudent since they have so prominently rejected the teachings of the Church.

These changes could also help protect children. While some same-sex couples adopt, many children of same-sex couples come from divorce. In these situations, custody battles can be fierce. In most places in the United States, if one parent tries to destroy the relationship of their child with the other parent it is considered “custodial interference” which is grounds to change the custodial agreement.

Because the Church continues to affirm that heterosexual marriage is the ideal, there could potentially be judges in the United States—perhaps, even, very many judges—who would categorize a child joining a church that rejects their parent’s new relationship as custodial interference. This could take that child away from the parent who belongs to the Church or rearrange their custodial arrangements significantly in ways that would harm the child.

All children, of course, continue to be welcome at all church activities, including primary, and Sacrament meeting. And in following the example of the Savior, all children are entitled to blessings of comfort and healing.

Myth #2 Treats LGBT People Worse Than Other Sinners
There are others who insist that these new changes set sins of homosexuality as more serious than other sins. Again this is not true. Adultery and fornication are both grounds for excommunication. Up until the legalization of same-sex marriage, those who participated in same-sex relationships could receive church discipline under either of these other grounds.

The Church respects the law, and now recognizes same-sex marriages as legal, even if still sinful. Because of this, same-sex relationships could no longer be penalized as fornication requiring their addition to the definition of apostasy. But this change has no effect on how the Church responds to homosexual sins, only how it categorizes them.

As the Church’s website “Mormons and Gays” points out there is much misunderstanding of LDS doctrine on this issue. But the Church continues to affirm that homosexual sex is a sin.

Some have also suggested that requiring the children of LGBT couples to wait until they are adults to be baptized treats those parents worse than parents who are engaging in other types of sins. But this policy is the same that exists for children of polygamous couples, or children of parents opposed to the Church.

So this policy does not carve out special punishments for LGBT parents, but rather extends existing policies to cover their newly legal marriages.

Myth #3 Violates the Church’s 2nd Article of Faith
This myth is a common one shared by sofa philosophers critical of the Church’s new decision. The second article of faith reads, “We believe that men will be punished for their own sins and not for Adam’s transgression.”

This myth relies on the first myth that the Church is somehow punishing children of gay Mormons. But it also fundamentally misunderstands the second article of faith. Most other Christian denominations believe that all people are born inherently evil and fallen because of Adam’s sin of eating the forbidden fruit. Latter-day Saints reject this doctrine and believe people are only responsible before God for the sins they themselves commit.

The new policy does not change this doctrine in any way. First it has nothing to do with the idea of original sin. Second it has nothing to do with the inherent nature of the individual. Third it has nothing to do with the final judgment. This policy protects children in specific family situations from a variety of repercussions by requiring they wait until they are an adult before joining the Church.

Myth #4 Requires Children to Reject Parents
Some opponents of the Church continue to spout this claim even though it is patently false. In order for children of gay Mormon couples to be baptized, they must simply affirm the Church’s teachings about sexuality and marriage. To quote the new handbook change, “The child accepts and is committed to live the teachings and doctrine of the Church, and specifically disavows the practice of same-gender cohabitation and marriage.”

They do not need to say anything about their parents. This is the same standard expected of every convert who has a parent that still smokes when to be baptized they must specifically agree to the word of wisdom. Children in this situation must simply recognize the Church’s teachings on sin.

There are those who believe that identifying a behavior as sinful is equivalent to rejecting the people who engage in that behavior. But those people fundamentally misunderstand Latter-day Saint doctrine about the atonement and identity. Those who perpetuate this myth are often those who believe sexuality is the primary factor in personal identity.

Myth #5 Places Newborn Children in State of Apostasy
This is a sad myth to have to refute. Unfortunately, “The Salt Lake Tribune” in their irresponsible coverage of this topic repeated this myth in their headline of this story, “New Mormon Policy Makes Apostates of Children from Same-Sex Unions.”

Latter-day Saints strongly believe in the innocence of children, as outlined in Moroni Chapter 8. The new policy recategorizes same-sex marriage as apostasy instead of fornication.

The LDS Church has a very long-standing policy of not allowing children to be baptized without both parents permission. This policy existed, presumably, to prevent families from being destroyed by contention over the issue. The Church in its focus on family would rather children grow up in a stable home environment than be baptized under any circumstances.

This policy is a way of putting the stability of these children’s families first. A goal that presumably most detractors of this policy would laud.

Children from same-sex unions are asked to wait until adulthood to join the Church. This is far different than categorizing those children as sinners or apostates. If somehow children from same-sex families were apostate or inferior the Church would not be so welcoming to them as soon as they become adults.

Those responsible for disseminating this myth including the editorial board at “The Salt Lake Tribune” should take steps to fix the damage from their errors.

Myth #6 Church is Depriving Itself of LGBT Members
This myth was started by John Dehlin in his initial post on the matter. He wrote, “it is sad for the LDS church and its devout members — who continue to deprive themselves of the wonderful talents and association with so many beautiful and gifted LGBT members.”

This myth comes from those who essentially do not believe in sin. They believe that our behavior should be dictated by our innermost self and not by God. To these individuals, rejecting a behavior is the same as rejecting an individual. This twisted sense of reality leads to this myth.

God has always had behavioral standards including those for sexual conduct. God’s church would consequently support those standards. Saying that the Church is depriving itself of LGBT members is as foolhardy as saying the Church is depriving itself of cohabitating members, polygamous members, or alcoholic members. Individuals can deprive themselves of the blessings of the Church by refusing to follow the commandments, not the other way around.

Myth #7 This Hurts Me Personally
This comment is most pervasive because it is the most difficult to unravel. This rhetorical approach has become crucial in the campaign to normalize and then legalize same-sex marriage, because we are not accustomed to telling other people their feelings don’t matter.

As a result this myth has become a bludgeon to silence those who believe in right and wrong.

If someone talks about how this hurts them, they may sincerely think that, but it is also political theater, a learned response from mimicking the rhetorical style of those who’ve had so much political success on this issue.

Now let’s be clear, many people are feeling pain because of this decision, especially those whom the policy directly affects or who have family members this affects. The myth is that our personal emotional response should change Church policy.

Sharing feelings on this issue as though they affect the rightness or wrongness of the policy is a logical fallacy. This comes under the category of argumentum ad passiones. While you may feel whatever you want about this policy change, your feelings do not affect whether or not this change was correct. When people talk about their pain as a way of ending a conversation it is little more than emotional manipulation.

Myth #8 The Church Lost and Should Move On
This myth comes from those who are still focussed on the recent Supreme Court ruling Obergefell v. Hodges. They argue that gay marriage is now legal, so the Church should stop fighting it. This myth doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. The Supreme Court decision does not dictate how churches should behave.

This myth also relies on the idea that the Church should base its decisions on popular trends. If anything, this action is a response to protect the Church from the recent Supreme Court ruling. By categorizing same-sex relationships as apostasy, the Church puts itself in a strong legal position should a same-sex couple sue in order to be married by a bishop or in the temple.

Myth #9 These Changes are Eternal Doctrine
Some who have tried to defend the Church have fallen to a different myth. They try to look at these changes as part of the eternal doctrine of the family that will never change.

These changes are to policy, not doctrine. Policy changes in the Church on a regular basis to best protect the Church and respond to ongoing revelation. This policy may be long-lasting or it may be short-term. These changes are only to be administered by church leadership, so direction on these matters can change and often do.

Eternal families are essential Latter-day Saint doctrine, and same-sex couples frustrate that plan in a way that few other things can, but how baptism policy responds to that reality is not so nearly set in stone.

There’s also one bonus comment that you may read a lot. This very well could be true, or not, there’s no way to know, but in the end it doesn’t matter.

This Could Lead to a Great Exodus
Facebook Myths PinterestThere should be nothing surprising to Latter-day Saints about people threatening to leave. Paul prophesied clearly that this would happen: “In the latter times some shall depart from the faith.” Latter-day Saints do not need to intellectually understand every policy change Church leaders make to know that there is spiritual safety in following their leadership and counsel.

Could this change really be enough for some people to reject all the blessings of Church membership? Maybe, Paul certainly foresaw that something would draw people away. But we can have comfort in following Jesus Christ and His Latter-day Church.

[Editor’s Note: The text of myth 7 has been slightly altered to better reflect the author’s original intent]

Join the Liberty Lineup’s Faith in the Fire segment, Monday, November 9, 2015 10 to Noon, Mountain time, as we share more information about this policy change and take your calls and comments.  AM 630 or or app k-talk.

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Why Harry Reid Is An Embarrassment to His Religious Faith – Part 2

Senator Harry Reid is a Mormon, but the majority of Mormons do not support Senator Harry Reid on much of anything.  Ever.

He supports abortion, Planned Parenthood, gay rights, reckless fiscal policies senreid blocks kate's lawding our children in to terrible debt they are inheriting, socialized medicine that will bankrupt our government, and open borders and illegal immigration.

He also supports (for now) allowing an illegal immigrant to be deported multiple times for committing crimes and then being allowed to come back into the country to kill an innocent American citizen.

It only took ONE senator to object to the passing of Senator Ted Cruz’s “Kate’s law” to kill it, and Reid was it.

For this despicable voting record, members of the LDS faith should be proud that Reid’s one of them?

A while back I sent out an email to my list with the heading “Why Harry Reid’s An Embarrassment to His Faith.”  A few people got their feathers ruffled at my directness. I made no apologies then for being straight forward about this fact, nor do I now.

In fact, Harry Reid does not even resemble what a Mormon is or believes in.  Reid gets away with murder – literally – for continuing his strong support of Planned Parenthood and allowing the barbaric butchering of human life and the sale of body parts to continue.

Harry Reid is at his core  – a socialist.  A Marxist.  He’s the champion of Alinksy politics, the author that wrote the book Rules for Radicals advocating how to create class warfare to bring about a marxist revolution, and he dedicated it to Lucifer, the author of all lies and deception.

Astonishingly some say that it’s possible to be a Mormon or Christian and a communist.  In the words of my baffled friend – a former citizen of the USSR:  “You would have to live a lie.”

Indeed, there is no way anyone who believes in God can possibly be a socialist, Marxist or communist unless they are clueless as to what that political and economic ideology does to destroy the very religion, family and morality they profess to believe in.

Indeed The Communist Manifesto clearly states that a marxist, socialist and communist seeks to abolish religion, the family, and all morality.

One sees clearly now, from Harry Reid’s voting record, how that is the truth.  He has moved about as far away from the tenets of his faith as anyone could possibly go and not be excommunicated. In fact, if it were anyone else, they would have been excommunicated long ago for speaking out so loudly and publicly against the tenets of the Mormon faith.

One might question whether his position in high places protects him?

Here is Ted Cruz telling it like it is after Reid single-handedly killed the “Kate’s law” bill Cruz sponsored:

Nevada voters tried unsuccessfully to remove Reid from office in 2010.  I was invited to stump for his opponent, Sharron Angle, which I gladly did on more than one occasion. Angle’s team had hard core evidence that Reid’s team brought illegals to the polls to pull it off.

Hopefully Nevada voters will have a better opportunity in 2016 as it is also a presidential year favoring the Republican vote.

And I’m sure I’ll be criticized once again for being so honest about Harry, but sometimes the truth is hard to hear.

We need your help. The Liberty Lineup sponsored an all-day #Stand4Truth conference on October 26th and brought in the A-Team to advocate for family and religious liberty, to #stand4truth on the matter of homosexuality.

Now Watch Cruz as he nails the media on this issue of marriage and gay rights.

In fact, while Reid facilitates more babies being killed, college professor Robert Oscar Lopez’s job is on the line for merely telling his story and speaking out against the damaging environment of growing up with his two lesbian moms.

Watch Robert Oscar Lopez here in his testimony in a congressional hearing.

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Media Black Out: Houston’s Repeal of LGBT Ordinance and the Truth About Transgenderism

Houston, Tx – Here’s the news release that the Houston pastors sent out after their resounding win in repealing Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance.

Pastors express gratitude for a “Victory for Houston and our people” in defeat of Mayor Parker’s “Equal Rights Ordinance”

Houston, TX – A coalition of hundreds of pastors representing congregations from megachurch to small of every ethnic demographic all over Houston who have opposed Mayor Annise Parker’s pro-LGBT ordinance, expressed gratitude for the significant defeat of the ordinance, City of Houston Proposition 1, in today’s election.

“We are blessed beyond measure that God has honored the eighteen months, thousands of volunteer hours, persevering against a massive legal machine and abuse of law to achieve two Texas Supreme Court victories restoring the right of the people to vote and finally the incredible work to turn out the vote by our churches throughout Houston,” stated the pastors’ coalition.

“The deception engaged in by Mayor Parker, the Greater Houston Partnership, even some of the media to deflect what this issue is about was ultimately unsuccessful, with the people of this city,” they continued. “Houston citizens spoke resoundingly by an incredible twenty two point margin of victory that we will protect our women and children, preserve our freedom of religion, and promote at all costs what is good, decent and right before our God.”

They also pointed out that this has never been a “local issue” but part of the national pro-LGBT Human Rights Campaign agenda to use local ordinances to accomplish what they have been unable to do at the federal level apart from activist courts. “We will not allow national anti-faith, anti-family groups like Human Rights Campaign, the ACLU and Planned Parenthood to destroy this great city. Houston is not a perfect city, however it is indeed the most diverse and welcoming city of its in the nation, so from the very beginning this was a solution looking for a problem; creating division where there was none,” stated the pastors.

They concluded by asserting their mutual commitment to staying united and “on the field” to assure that future city administrations are held accountable to the rule of law, what is best for all the people and to basic standards of decency and integrity.


We have monitored it closely and yes, the media have deliberately blacked out coverage of one of the most significant Election Day wins in recent years:  the repeal of Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance.

Here is the AP wire.

Here is the New York Times article.

And here is the Texas Tribune article.

But where is CNBC? Or NBC? Or ABC? Or…wait…where is FOX??? Zero. Nothing on Fox. I know. I monitored it all day.

But here was the Fox report before the result on Election day:

I contacted the Sean Hannity Show early this morning and although he mentioned it, even he could not get the city right. Here’s the audio:

This is typical, and it is dangerous. LGBT activists are well aware that this Houston win has opened the door for more repeals and they have vowed to “double down.” Hopefully it will set back the expected “accommodations” bill the LGBT advocates have promised in the next legislative session.

A petition campaign is well under way in California where 500,000 signatures are needed by November 20th to get a repeal on the 2016 ballot.

But we know the LGBT activists will not rest. Here is a recent communication from the multi-million dollar Human Rights Campaign in response to the Election Day win:

This evening, anti-LGBT activists in Houston succeeded in rolling back crucial nondiscrimination protections for the city. As a result of today’s election, Houston is now the largest city in the United States WITHOUT these local protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people, women, minorities, veterans, and many others.

It’s almost unbelievable that this could happen in a vibrant and diverse city like Houston. And make no mistake: if we don’t double down on our commitment to equality today, we’ll face the same thing again and again in cities across the nation.
As you well know by now, the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance (HERO) passed the City Council with the support of HRC and our pro-equality allies last year, before being forced onto the ballot by the all-elected Texas Supreme Court. Then, over the last few weeks, our opponents shamelessly spread misinformation and ugly lies about LGBT people in an effort to trick fair-minded voters into voting against HERO.

Alongside the ACLU, NAACP, Equality Texas, and our local and national partners as well as with local businesses and faith leaders, we formed Houston Unites to push back on the lies and attack ads. Together – thanks to thousands of supporters like you – we were able to launch an unprecedented deployment of staff and resources to Houston to support the coalition’s effort.
Over the last several months, across Houston and across Texas, our supporters and allies stepped up like never before. I’ve witnessed the grit and determination firsthand as you’ve made phone calls, knocked on doors, talked to friends and neighbors about why HERO matters, and volunteered countless hours because you understood why nondiscrimination protections are needed in Houston.

Today is a no doubt a setback for all of us. In the end, we fell short in getting enough votes that now mean the difference between 15 classes of Houstonians being vulnerable to discrimination instead of protections that help ensure they’ll be treated equally under the law. But believe me when I say this fight isn’t over.

Because of you, our members and supporters, we helped the coalition in Houston wage this crucial campaign with unprecedented strength. When we have faced attacks on equality, you’ve kept our work going.

Here in Texas we are going to keep up the fight for equality. And we are not going to let tonight’s loss in Houston set the tone for the upcoming year. We are counting on our faithful supporters like you to be there alongside us again for the tough battles ahead.

What can we expect in the next round?

A different focus. In Houston, the LGBT message was one of fairness and equality. Next time, we know they will instead focus on the economic disadvantage, boycotts and the business community and Chamber of Commerce will play hard ball, just as it has done with other social issues such as creating sanctuary cities, amnesty and benefits for illegal aliens.

Of course the only criticism the Left can muster regarding the phenomenal win in Houston is that those who oppose the “bathroom bill” falsely claim that any man could enter a woman’s bathroom, shower or locker room. No, they have to be either pre-op or in transition.

Pray tell, really. What does it matter? Who is going to go checking that out when a man walks into a woman’s bathroom?

Allowing a man to enter a woman’s restroom, locker room or shower trans or not creates cultural chaos, and that’s a major concern with gender confusion.

Why can’t there just be transgender facilities, you ask?

Because, the transgendered don’t want to be separated out. They want total inclusion. They truly believe that even though their DNA says otherwise, they are the opposite sex.

In Palatine, Illinois a federal judge has ruled that the separate accommodations the school provided are not good enough. Inclusion is the only constitutional response. What a perversion of the founders’ context of the US Constitution. Adams stated that it was written “only for a moral and religious people.”

Here is the report.

This, in spite of plenty of medical science showing transgenderism is a mental disorder. It’s called “gender dysphoria.”

Even the state of Utah naively put SOGI language into its anti-discrimination law, protecting the transgendered in hiring, meaning that now transgendered school teachers cannot be discriminated against and they must be allowed to stand before our children and declare their lifestyle normal and even advantageous.

The transgendered don’t need to use our bathrooms, they need to be treated for this mental illness. They should not be allowed protection or a special right to invade privacy and to impose sexual deviation and perversion on primarily women who are seeking a private place to take care of personal needs.

Judges must be informed. They are acting out of ignorance. That must change. We need to raise the funds to educate them. We need your help. Please click on the donate button above to help with whatever amount you are able. $25, $50, $100, $250, $500 or more.

Sex Revolution Confusion
This confusion is the result of a sexual revolution now encouraging questioning gender identity. It has gained in popularity among adolescents and college students. It is even faddish.

Here is the very sad story of a transgendered homecoming queen in Kansas City, Missouri. The high school students cheered for his crowning while the other girls who lost gathered around to congratulate him.

Even Donald Trump has conceded (based on Canadian law) and is allowing transgendered confused men to compete with women in the Miss Universe pageant. Men in drag competing with women? How demeaning to real women. Here’s a totally clueless young woman reporting on Caitlyn Jenner’s possible judge opportunity at Miss USA. Mr. Trump has fully embraced bringing in gender dysphoric men into the women’s pageant. What a cut to real women – and a complete lack of information on his part.

Where is Gloria Steinem when we need her to stand up for the discrimination of these real girls and young women? Who will stand up for the damage that a trans boy will do to the girls on the girls sports team? Where is ANY feminist who will speak out against this discrimination against real women?

(The truth is, most of the feminists I knew, especially the leaders of the Equal Rights Amendment movement, were actually lesbian. I was there and I saw it.)

What kind of insanity is surrounding our courts when a young woman in the Miss USA pageant relinquishes her crown in part for speaking out against the admission of dysphoric men into the Miss USA pageant, all promoted and brought to us by Mr. Donald Trump! Not only that, Trump sued her for $5 million for defaming the pageant.

I really like Trump’s forthright nature and his stance on several issues from immigration to trade that other Republican candidates ought to be championing, but until he gets this straight he does not have my full confidence. The President has authority to appoint Judges and we can’t afford to have a man or woman in the White House that does not get it right on these critical social issues.

If only these students (and school officials and presidential candidates) understood the facts of how serious this illness is and that there is help. If only they knew of the personal and private pain of children raised by transgendered parents.

This very sad commentary is just one example. Denise Shick is author of “My Daddy’s Secret,” “When Hope Seems Lost” and “Understanding Gender Confusion.” She serves on the Academic Council of the International Children’s Rights Institute and also directs Help 4 Families Ministry.

Should transgender parents be able to adopt?

In April, President Obama made it clear he thinks they should. In a presidential proclamation for National Foster Care Month, Obama wrote, “With so many children waiting for loving homes, it is important to ensure all qualified caregivers have the opportunity to serve as foster or adoptive parents, regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, or marital status.” (Emphasis mine.)

The proclamation relates Obama’s latest thoughts on what’s best for LBGT adults. But what’s best for children?

It is stunning that we hear no personal accounts from adults who grew up in transgender homes like this, and that so little research is made public about this.

I am one of those children. I was raised by a transgender father.

I can testify to the emotional strain and confusion that my father’s life played in my sexual and gender identity. I sought out our neighbors for a foster father. Many times I pretended that one of my uncles or a friend’s father was my make-believe father.

I was so hungry for my father; a transgender “mom” would not fit that need no matter how badly the adult wished it to.

My father experimented with my make-up and clothes, and by 7th grade I had decided that alcohol was the easiest method to numb my own pain. By the beginning of high school, I wondered if life was worth living.

There is nothing more painful for a daughter than to watch her dad put on a bra or have him wear your clothes. No daughter should have to place her clothes in her dresser drawers by a code so she can know if he had been pawing through her underclothes.

It is not fair or healthy for a daughter to feel guilty about her developing body, or about becoming a woman. But in today’s world we encourage children to accept their parent’s sexual desires. We prioritize adult’s sexual preferences ahead of what is best for their children.

As a culture we are very willing to address the emotional distress, isolation and other negative issues of people who come out as transgender adults. But we have not even begun to discuss the issues involved and the impact this has on their wives and children.

I’m begging America to wake up to what is being done for the sake of society and for children worldwide! This cultural celebration of transgenderism, for me as a daughter of a transgender father, is misguided and insensitive.

In our country’s most recent challenge regarding gay marriage, six adult children raised in same-sex or transgender households came forward to address the importance they placed on having both a mother and a father.

I wonder if anyone is listening to the voices of the adult children that should count and be heard.

As I know from firsthand experience, all children—including those being adopted—deserve a mom and a dad.

Denise is right. But as long as the mainstream media are collaborating to hide this information from the public, we are left to bring this truth to you by whatever means we can. That’s why we held an inaugural conference on October 26th bringing an all-star team of doctors, therapists, attorneys, religious leaders and those who have been adversely affected by homosexuality together to share the facts being covered up.

We are still covering the expenses of that event. We also have video footage that must be edited. Please help us #Stand4Truth. We need your generous donation of whatever you are able – $25, $50, $100, $250, $500 ore more. Just click on the donate button at the top. Or send a check to Strong Reasons, LLC, 5202 Saddleback Drive, Salt Lake City, UT 84117.

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Vote No Houston’s Prop 1 | UN wants to legalize gay pedophilia for 10 year olds and up

We stand with Houston pastors who have led the charge to repeal Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance. It’s on the ballot Tuesday, November 3, 2015. If you know anyone in Houston, please forward this message: VOTE NO PROP 1.

Prayers Are Needed for Houston and for Religious Liberty
On Election Day November 3rd in Houston, we ask everyone on our list to tell their friends who live in Houston to vote NO on Prop 1 – the repeal of Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance – and to pray for its success in the cause of religious liberty and our children.

Getting this repeal measure on the ballot came at a great personal cost and much courage, championed by the Houston Area Pastors Council, led by Pastor Dave Welch.

Pastor Welch was the concluding keynote speaker at the #Stand4Truth Summit in Salt Lake City, Utah on Monday, October 26, 2015. He shared their experience and urged us all to never give in.

Now, why do we oppose anti-discrimination? Isn’t it about love and fairness and equality?

No, it’s not. Here’s why.

It must be known that these laws are not about equality. They are an integral part of the agenda to normalize sin and sexual perversion.

#Stand4Truth Tuesday Election Day – Vote NO Houston’s Prop 1

The LGBT activists know this Houston Proposition is the test case for all SOGI (sexual orientation-gender identity) laws across the nation.

If these pastors succeed, what they did to repeal it will become a model for the rest of the nation to repeal these deceptive laws that, in the name of “equality,” allow men to violate the privacy of women and minor girls by entering into their bathrooms, locker rooms and shower facilities.

SOGI laws also give license to homosexual or transgender teachers and their advocates in public schools in positions of respected authority to openly discuss and advocate their LGBT agenda and to promote it to our children, along with teaching SOGI sex ed to young children.

The SOGI laws are the slippery slope to the legalization of absolute depravity. Now, as we predicted, the U.N. is moving to normalize pedophilia, legalized sex between minors and adults. I urge you to read more about this sexual revolution influencing these laws.


We accurately predicted that after the U.S. Supreme Court redefined marriage to include homosexual “marriage” that children would be at increased risk of sexual abuse because they are placed for adoption in homosexual homes.

We predicted the next frontline would be the result of anti-discrimination laws: the protection of homosexuals to be hired as teachers in public schools and to teach from a position of authority and respect that their lifestyle is as normal as any other. Based on the testimonials of so many who have been raised in homosexual households, we asserted that this was a form of child abuse.

Of course, this claim enraged many in the LGBT movement. However, just as with the pro-Life movement, adults who have been raised in those homes have been speaking out and telling their stories.

One of them, Dawn Stefanowicz, spoke at the recent #Stand4Truth summit in Salt Lake City on Monday, October 26, 2015. Watch her presentation here, beginning at approximately 39:50.

Anti-discrimination laws must be stopped because our children are at risk. It’s as simple as that.

Read this important report from Dr. Judith Reisman on how gender identity laws will affect our children.

How Utah Was Targeted
In states as conservative as Utah, anti-discrimination laws have been railroaded through legislative hearings. We oppose any inclusion of SOGI language (sexual orientation and gender identity) because children are the losers. It has nothing to do with equality.

Utah was a surprise to the entire nation, from the day the federal circuit court judge unilaterally struck down its marriage law by summary judgment (no hearing) in December 2013.

But to those of us who have been working intensely behind the scenes, it was predictable. I had been watching for over two decades.

I can testify that Utah and the Mormon church has been a prime target of the sexual revolution – specifically the LGBT agenda – for many years.

In the mid-1980s a favorite LDS poet and playwright Carol Lynn Pearson (and a personal friend from our theatre days at Brigham Young University) wrote her beautiful story Goodbye, I Love You. It was a passionate and tender account of her Christlike acts of compassion as she cared for Gerald, her homosexual husband, in his final days battling AIDS, after he had left her and her children for other men several years prior.

The fallout was devastating and it adversely affected her children. Carol Lynn’s extraordinarily talented and beautiful daughter Emily later documented her life experience in a book titled Dancing With Crazy.

How a child copes with this sort of trauma is the focus of our concern that gets entirely lost in the selfish and narcissistic
LGBT rights movement. We are compelled to ask the fundamental question: What about the needs of a child to have both a mother and a father in a committed, long-term marriage?

I cannot begin to know the personal pain that my friend Carol Lynn has experienced. I do know that this life gives each of us personal pain in different ways. But Carol Lynn and I have taken different routes in response to life’s painful experiences.

My own life experience, including my theatrical experience and intimate friendships with the gay community, drew me to the family advocacy movement to defend man-woman marriage and to protect our children from the sexual revolution that challenges that institution.

On the other hand, Carol Lynn’s experience led her to advocate for the inclusion of gay Mormons into the fold, so to speak. She used her writing talent to create dramatic stories and plays of Mormon returned missionaries who had been ostracized from family and friends and who had committed suicide. Her brilliance captured a national audience.

Meanwhile, in that same time frame – 1989 – the LGBT movement strategized and laid out its blueprint to win in a book titled After the Ball. They did everything they set out to do, and it worked.

As early as June 1995, I began monitoring the LGBT strategic plan to take out Utah first. With a media pass, I attended the UN Conference on Families in Salt Lake City where the licensing of parents and forced sterilization of “unfit” boys at age 12 was advocated in one of its breakout sessions. The response in the room was an audible gasp. Such policy only existed in totalitarian governments such as Communist China.

By September 1995 the LDS Church responded by publishing its doctrine, The Family: A Proclamation to the World. It specifically defined marriage as man-woman. It defined gender as eternal, and Life as sanctified.

It then called upon citizens to hold elected officials accountable to this eternal and unchanging standard.

By 2004, many states were under direct attack. Utah passed its man-woman constitutional protection Amendment 3, while I worked as assistant to constitutional scholar Richard Wilkins to help several states including Utah get their proposals on ballots.

I began to monitor the LGBT blogs and email lists. I noticed a common target: the Mormon Church. Appeals went out in these close-knit online conversation groups to create a critical mass in Salt Lake City, encouraging LGBT advocates to move there and to run for public office.

Gay ex-Mormons showed up in surprising places, at LDS meetings and conferences and behind the scenes in support groups emerging to infiltrate through compassionate covers such as the Mormons Building Bridges organization.

On the surface, Mormons Building Bridges professes to encourage the compassionate embrace of family and friends rather than ostracizing them. But what it really seeks is full inclusion and a change in doctrine.

I became aware of the subversive nature of Mormons Building Briges while running for public office. One day I received a lengthy phone call from an individual who finally admitted that the goal is full inclusion, including homosexual “marriage” in LDS temples.

By this time, the South Park writers were researching what was to become The Book of Mormon (the musical), a satirical, distorted, vulgar and mocking look at the LDS church and its missionary outreach.

While Carol Lynn gathered those who were leaving the LDS church in more formal conference settings, featuring icons such as NFL’s 49er Quarterback Steve Young, I and others began meeting in more formal gatherings to defend the faith and its natural family policy featuring the Osmonds.

Then Prop 8 happened. The LDS church got on board openly and enthusiastically. It is universally acknowledged that without the LDS Church’s support in California, that ballot proposition defending man-woman marriage would have failed.

Many contributions flooded in from LDS donors everywhere. I was one of them. In true aggressive form, Huffington Post collaborated with SPLC and HRC to expose the donors. Mormons lost their jobs and their reputations were ridiculed. For those that had never participated in anything political before, it was devastating.

I was one of those donors. It really didn’t make much difference to us and no one took time to highlight it, until I ran for U.S. Senate. Then suddenly I was a target. Gloria Steinem and feminist author Linda Hirschman, along with The Daily Beast and Mother Jones – both liberal feminist and anti-Mormon news outlets – launched a vicious campaign against me – and my husband’s business.

Mother Jones‘ Washington DC reporter, Stephanie Mencimer, disclosed that she had come from Utah to Washington DC. It was clear she had an ax to grind about Utah and a grudge against its dominant religion.

A divide was developing. The LDS homosexual community that estranged itself from the doctrine of the natural family pursued positions in high places of LGBT influence. One became an attorney with the Southern Poverty Law Center, the aggressive legal LGBT advocacy group that has at its disposal hundreds of millions to spend to create the media lies and to take the matter to the Courts.

Together with the Human Rights Campaign, another aggressive organization with hundreds of millions to spend to shape the media message, they launched a full-court press strategy to take out Utah first.

And they did.

Local major donors who supported the demise of man-woman marriage in Utah included Bruce Bastian and even my BYU roommate and bridesmaid Diane Pew Tolboe Stewart. According to an L.A. Times report, she had been brokering talks between LDS General Authorities, LDS Public Affairs and Equality Utah inside her mansion that overlooks the Utah Capitol and Temple Square.

Overstock owner Patrick Byrne provided $50,000 to fund the plaintiffs in the Utah lawsuit that claimed Utah’s Amendment 3 was unconstitutional. That created the domino effect for the rest of the states that faced challenges.

Lines in the LDS community were being drawn. One small but vocal group wanted inclusion of homosexuals. Others in the vast majority – but less vocal – wanted to hold the line on biblical and scriptural truth condemning homosexuality as both a sin of the heart and of behavior.

The Utah Compromise and Beyond
Still others on both sides believed there could be some sort of truce that would allow a peaceful co-existence. That ideal – that we could be “fair to all” – created the dialogue behind the crafting of what is now known as “The Utah Compromise” – the LGBT-“religious liberty” bill that passed the Utah legislature with little warning or hearing from those of us who believe that man’s law cannot trump God’s law.

Compromise in biblical and Book of Mormon terms is virtually non-existent. Good and evil have always been like oil and water. The definition of marriage and religious liberty is a no-compromise matter to those of us who know religious history.

We know that it is not only possible to stay true to the natural family and marriage and still treat family and friends with a Christian heart, while not compromising, there is no other way to protect our children.

The Truth About Extremism
We know from history that we are now in a place in time where we must do what is right and let the consequence follow.

Courageous people are rising to the top, such as Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk that went to jail because she refused to allow an unjust law to trump her freedom of conscience.

Some have criticized her and called her an extremist or suggested that she did not have a legal right to conscientiously object.

Yet, throughout history, have you noticed that those we now honor and call courageous were once criticized and mocked by their contemporaries as extremists?

Here are a few examples:

The American Founders were extremists. They gave their lives, fortunes and sacred honor, many losing all they owned and dying paupers for our liberty. Yet, only a small percentage of colonists supported them.

Helmuth Hebener, one of three LDS teenagers in Nazi Germany were extremists for distributing leaflets decrying Nazism. Helmuth was so criticized he was excommunicated by his Nazi Mormon bishop. After he was beheaded by the Nazis, the LDS church eventually reinstated him. Today he is a Mormon hero.

Martin Luther King was an extremist. When he landed in the Birmingham Jail, he was ridiculed by his own leaders in the civil rights movement. They distanced themselves from him because he had embarrassed the entire movement. This was the motivation behind his riveting Letter from Birmingham Jail.

Never let this history be forgotten, because today those of us who are taking this strong position – that we cannot compromise with evil – are being ostracized, ridiculed and criticized by a few who are more concerned about their reputations than doing what is right. We are today’s extremists, some might suggest.

We are among those that have warned against the support of anti-discrimination laws. We knew from experience in other states that along with the protection in hiring and housing, would next come the “accommodations” laws, intended to force homosexualism and transgenderism on everyone.

The LGBT media message was clever – “it’s about love” and “equality for all.” “All” meaning all homosexuals, excluding the rest of us.

We warned that the support of anti-discrimination laws would lead to the violation of privacy of women and girls in bathrooms, locker rooms and shower facilities, and that they would destroy girls’ sports teams by forcing boys who claim to be girls onto their teams.

We warned that including the SOGI language would give protective status to “transgendered” youth, as Utah’s law did, even citing the DSM V definition of “gender identity” which is gender dysphoria, a mental disorder.

This protection flies in the face of the truth which Walt Heyer, an ex-trans man explained to us at our #Stand4Truth Summit in Salt Lake City – that between 74 and 96% of those who believe they are transgendered are really simply facing a mental illness that can be treated successfully. He was one of them and has been happily married for 18 years.

We also predicted that when marriage laws fell, the next frontier would be the SOGI frontier to legalize homosexual pedophilia by lowering the age of consent to age 10.

Indeed, the UNFPA (United Nations Population Fund) just announced that this IS the next front.

It’s a time to boldly #Stand4Truth. If you agree, please help us cover the costs of the #Stand4Truth event and the documentary we are developing. Just click on the donate button above. Or send a check payable to: Strong Reasons, LLC, 5202 Saddleback Drive, Salt Lake City, Utah 84117

World Congress of Families IX
The four-day event in Salt Lake City was a huge success. It drew a large crowd and the speakers and break out sessions were well organized.

Highlights were Pastor Rafael Cruz, presidential candidate Ted Cruz’s father, who gave a riveting address to a cheering crowd, citing the forces of communism to destroy the family.

Afterward, he commented that the SOGI laws – anti-discrimination laws – are the next frontier and that acceptance of gay pedophilia is now top on the agenda. LGBT activists typically jump all over those comments.

But Pastor Cruz was basing his statement on the October 22, 2015 announcement that UNFPA was launching an initiative to legalize homosexual man-boy sex.

This announcement was also discussed at our Monday event – #Stand4Truth. Begin watching at 1:00:50 – therapist David Pickup.

Strangely, WCF9 leadership distanced itself from Cruz’s comment about the indisputable relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia and Cruz’s appeal to stop anti-discrimination laws.

We assume that the WCF9 organizers did not see the recent announcement that this is indeed high on the UN agenda:

We urge WCF9 to review this update and reconsider its critical statement against Rev Cruz’s remarks, which were in fact truthful.

Thankfully, the WCF9 agenda dropped the inclusion of what is now called “The Utah Compromise” from its agenda. This is Utah’s anti-discrimination law that includes SOGI language and protects religious institutions – but it does not protect its adherents. Too many of the WCF9 member organizations agree with us and oppose that anti-discrimination approach and do not see it as “the model for the nation,” let alone the model for the world.

Another marvelous speaker at the WCF9 event was Cathy Ruse, Senior Counsel, Family Research Council, who stressed that history will not tell the story truthfully. It is up to us to keep the story straight – that 50 million Americans opposed homosexual “marriage” and voted for man-woman marriage and ONE supreme court justice legalized homosexual marriage against the will of the people.

She said that no judge can force us to bend at the alter of a foreign God. She advocated living in civil disobedience of such a law.

Brian Brown, president of the National Organization of Marriage followed. He said that the Supreme Court has put a lie into law. He cited other such instanced throughout history: The Dred Scott case allowing for the buying and selling of human beings; the sterilization of imbeciles. Throughout biblical times, martyrs declared “I will not bow to Caesar.” He said, “God has put us here for a reason.” Then he charted the course ahead with four points of action:

1. Affirm the truth.
2. Reject the US Supreme Court decision.
3. Overturn that decision.
4. Contain the damage.

Another popular speaker was Everett Piper, President of Oklahoma Wesleyan University who also agrees with our approach that we must #Stand4Truth.

#Stand4Truth Videos

Each of these speakers made a strong case for what we believe – that we must continue to #Stand4Truth – the truth of the positive affects of natural marriage and family on children as well as the need to share the truth about the medical and behavioral science and to share the stories of those whose lives have been adversely affected by homosexuality.

You can watch the unedited version of the all day #Stand4Truth event we hosted on Monday, October 26, 2015:

Morning Session

Afternoon Session

Evening Session

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The Slippery Slope of Gay Pedophilia Now Gaining Traction at UN

Although not a new idea, the homosexual agenda is now getting traction at the UN. As mentioned above, the legalization of gay pedophilia, consensual sex between boys and men, is now at the forefront.

This heinous practice has a long history.  I urge you to take time to watch this documentary. John Harmer, chairman of The Lighted Candle Society was with us at the #Stand4Truth event to give a brief report on the relationship of the homosexual agenda and the sexual revolution.

Our friend Judith Reisman was the original whistle blower on the infamous, fraudulent Kinsey Report, which employed sheer evil to support its sexually deviant findings by using children and babies to determine what was “normal” sexual behavior. This is long, but it will open your eyes to why we are so passionate about winning the war on children, marriage and family.


The direct relationship between anti-discrimination laws and the LGBT agenda is incremental.  The question is fundamental:  Is homosexualization good for all in society and if so, should homosexuals and transgendered be a protected class?

To understand the sexual revolution is to understand the homosexual revolution and why anti-discrimination laws must be stopped.

If you have an anti-discrimination law in your town, county or state, the door is now open for your children to be indoctrinated and taught by openly homosexual teachers that will advocate their lifestyle, of which pedophilia (gay and straight) is an accepted practice.

The journey down this slippery slope is acting out in Houston on Tuesday. Which way will we go?

Please help the Houston pastors defeat Proposition 1 on the ballot on Tuesday.  Contact your friends who live there and tell them to get out to vote NO on Proposition 1.

Watch this quick video which gives a glimpse of the drama these pastors have been facing. We were there. We saw, and now we must conquer.  Click on the video even though it says it cannot be accessed.

Joining Houston Five trailer from Robert Starling on Vimeo.

To Judeo-Christian believers, homosexuality, pederasty (and any sexual thought or behavior outside of man-woman marriage) is a sin in all its forms. The reality is, LGBT anti-discrimination laws are legalizing sin by deceiving good people to believe that this is about equality. By so doing, these laws are protecting sin.

Questions Believers Must Ask Themselves

Now we are at a new crossroads. We must ask the following questions of ourselves and of all believers everywhere:

Who are we?

Are we disciples of Jehovah of the Old Testament or Christ of the New Testament?

Do we believe in the God of the Old Testament and/or the New Testament?

Are we willing to #Stand4Truth now that it has become extremist to do so?

Are we willing to put our lives, fortunes and sacred honor on the line for what is right and to #Stand4Truth as the American Founders did – even though they also were labeled extremists of their day?

Are there any examples in scripture in which religious leaders taught their people to bow down to unjust laws?

If we do not have freedom of conscience, what freedom is left?

Who are the biblical/scriptural examples we have been taught to follow?

What does it mean when we recite the words “…stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places?”

Examples We Must Follow

Daniel and the three Israelites of the Old Testament.

The disciples of the New Testament who died as martyrs – the examples of Peter and Paul – come to mind.

In the Book of Mormon, some examples were Abinadi, Samuel the Lamanite, and Moroni who led the people to battle to defend religious liberty and their families.

History repeats itself. The martyrs of old were mocked by their contemporary peers as extremists.

Is it extremism to #Stand4Truth today?

Who are we now?

Who are the examples today in this ongoing battle for religious liberty and to defend natural marriage and family?

The Houston Five Story
Pastor Dave Welch, one of the keynote speakers at the #Stand4Truth Conference Monday, October 26, 2015 in Salt Lake City, is one of those leaders. He delivered a powerful address asking believers everywhere to #Stand4Truth, no matter the cost.

Welch was one of the five pastors whose sermons and confidential communications with their members were subpoenaed by their lesbian mayor in an attempt to keep the repeal of Houston’s anti-discrimination ordinance off the ballot.

These pastors did not allow their lesbian mayor and her office to intimidate them. They stood together in solidarity throughout the ordeal. We were with them and we saw the evidence of the lies and deception emanating from the mayor’s office. The pastors took their cause “don’t mess with our pulpits” – which is a First Amendment unalienable right and protection – to court and they won.

Now they need our prayers again on Tuesday, November 3, 2015. The LGBT activists are funneling millions into that proposition to pass it. If you are in Houston, or if you know someone that lives in Houston, please forward this email and tell them to vote NO Proposition 1.

Salt Lake City’s Mayoral Election Demands “None of the Above” Response
Sadly, on Tuesday, Utah’s mayoral election frontrunner is a lesbian. In fact, every candidate running for Salt Lake City mayor supports this LGBT agenda. This is a shameful and embarrassing time for Utah and for the citizens of Salt Lake City that have allowed this unthinkable scenario to take hold because so many believers believe so strongly in being “meek and mild.” This is not a time for meekness.

It’s a time to boldly #Stand4Truth. If you agree, please help us cover the costs of the #Stand4Truth event and the documentary we are developing. Just click on the donate button above. Or send a check payable to: Strong Reasons, LLC, 5202 Saddleback Drive, Salt Lake City, Utah 84117